Wasanelder Once

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  Has this quote on hatred been true in your experience with JW's?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  i came upon this quote relating to the results of hatred: .

  "i imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.

  has your hatred of the organization been an effort to avoid dealing with your pain?

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  Wasanelder Once

  I came upon this quote relating to the results of hatred:

  "I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain."

  What do you think? Has your hatred of the organization been an effort to avoid dealing with your pain? I'm not so sure its true in my experience. I have not let hatred consume me in regards to the Organization.

  Isn't some hatred justified considering the pain, suffering and death they have authored by the crazy BS they have enforced on people? I do think some are blinded by their all encompassing hatred, not aware how much it has stunted them. What say you? How has it been for you?
  
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  God seems to have alot of failures?

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for an all powerful, all knowing god it seems most of his plans go awry, so why assume that armageddon/ new system will work?

  look at the track record.

  ... adam and eve... went wrong.

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  Wasanelder Once

  I guess you guys never studied "God's Eternal Purpose Now Triumphing: for Man's Good" the book. We studious ones learned that God does not have "Plans", he has a purpose. Plans may go awry, all the very things you mentioned in the OP for example, but Jehoobie has a purpose that will triumph as he makes it circumvent these attacks of Satan to stop him, i.e: the unfaithfulness of the Israelite's, and the influence of Satanic worship etc. He has been guarding his purpose all these millennia. Truly an amazing God. Oh, wait... I think that orange book from 1974 is old light these days... You live and you learn.

  
  
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  Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

  by Bad_Wolf in

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  2. current

  below i link the article.

  i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

  such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

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  Is it too late to say, I like turtles? I hope not.
  
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  God wipes out humans/wickedness in Noah's Flood but somehow wickedness returns

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  genesis 6: 9-139 this is the account of noah and his family.noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with god.

  10 noah had three sons: shem, ham and japheth.11 now the earth was corrupt in god’s sight and was full of violence.12 god saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways.

  13 so god said to noah, “i am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them.

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  The explanation I was given was that there "was nothing they couldn't do." This could include nuclear weapons long before the issue of sovereignty was resolved resulting in man made destruction of life on earth. But I thought that was always the point, let man go his way without Jehoobiedoo and see what happens. Such a bullshit religion.
  
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  Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

  in one sentence tell why you left the org.

  not 2 sentences.

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  The challenge wasn't to limit to one reason, just one sentence. Some evidently still have a rebellious streak! lol

  Congrats to all for participation.
  
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  Follow up on my question yesterday about being df'd for being disrespectful to elders.

  by longgone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really have appreciated the suggestions on how to respond to the elders recent behavior of attempting to find a way to disfellowship me and trying to push their way into my home by force.

  thank you it's been most helpful to see many different perspectives.. the following post is lengthy as i'm also addressing a related topic to anyone reading this site who is not a witness but even considering joining.

  you will see once again how the jw religion destroys families for their own members, those who try to leave quietly, and even the family members who were raised in it yet were never baptized.

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  We all make choices. I'm sure your dad made this choice long before he was 90. Don't be so hard on yourself. Sure it could be better, Israel and the Palestinians could be good neighbors too, but that ain't happening either. I would just get used to it. Count your blessings. Poor old guy doesn't know what he's missing. get the manager to post the "keep out sign" and put JW's on it. If its signed "the management" you're off the hook.
  
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  What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

  he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

  interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

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  The end is nearer every year because the number of partakers is less each memorial. (It was under 8000 by then)
  
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  Thirty-Five Years Later

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the market today, i walked down an aisle and glanced over at a middle-aged man and the woman beside him pushing a shopping cart.

  i couldn't place the man but recognized the somewhat younger woman, a former student.

  when the fellow started talking, i realized it was her brother, also a one-time student.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Very nice. Its good to hear from students that you have had such a good influence on.

  I like Cesar Franck's violin and piano sonata mov 1 & 4

  Brings me to tears every time.
  
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  Gruesome details in last night's memorial talk

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night's memorial talk in my cong went into graphic gruesome details about the torture of jesus and how the stake killed people.

  i mean medical level graphic description!

  step by step details of each injury and how it killed!

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  Wasanelder Once

  I experienced one of those sort of memorial talks at the Hall I attended. I have to admit it was intense. It was not child friendly. The speaker is inactive now, I guess it didn't have much of an impact on his faith.
  
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  Remark at memorial about growing annointed numbers

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  don’t know if it was part of the script.. at the memorial the remark about growing annointed numbers including this numbers from 2015 to 2017 was made (from 13.000 to 18.000+).. reason for the growing numbers could be:.

  - feeling annointed because of former believe.

  - psychical reasons.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Magic numbers, 144,000 etc. Its a house of cards ready to crash again as it did in 1914 when the big "A" didn't occur and many left. Its like waves going in and out. 1918, 1925, 1948, 1975, 1986, 2000 and on and on. This magic number was supposed to fade to nothing. Now it grows every year. Something isn't right. Oh, that's right, the cult is wrong again.